{"id":7791,"date":"2017-10-22T21:59:29","date_gmt":"2017-10-22T20:59:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/transhistory.centropa.org\/interviews\/esfir-dener\/"},"modified":"2020-02-14T12:59:41","modified_gmt":"2020-02-14T11:59:41","slug":"esfir-dener","status":"publish","type":"interviews","link":"https:\/\/transhistory.centropa.org\/uk\/intervyu-uk\/esfir-dener\/","title":{"rendered":"\u0415\u0441\u0444\u0456\u0440 \u0414\u0435\u043d\u0435\u0440"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>\u041a\u0438\u0448\u0438\u043d\u0456\u0432, \u041c\u043e\u043b\u0434\u043e\u0432\u0430 <\/em><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-7791 gallery-columns-6 gallery-size-thumbnail'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/transhistory.centropa.org\/uk\/interviews\/esfir-dener\/moedi001\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" 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href='https:\/\/transhistory.centropa.org\/uk\/interviews\/esfir-dener\/moedi008\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/transhistory.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/MOEDI008-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-9901\" srcset=\"https:\/\/transhistory.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/MOEDI008-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/transhistory.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/MOEDI008-45x45.jpg 45w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-9901'>\n\t\t\t\t\u042d\u0442\u043e \u044f, \u042d\u0441\u0444\u0438\u0440 \u0414\u0435\u043d\u0435\u0440 (\u043f\u0435\u0440\u0432\u0430\u044f \u0441\u043f\u0440\u0430\u0432\u0430) \u0441 \u0433\u0440\u0443\u043f\u043f\u043e\u0439 \u0431\u044b\u0432\u0448\u0438\u0445 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srcset=\"https:\/\/transhistory.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/MOEDI009-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/transhistory.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/MOEDI009-45x45.jpg 45w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-9902'>\n\t\t\t\t\u042d\u0442\u043e \u044f \u0432\u044b\u0441\u0442\u0443\u043f\u0430\u044e. \u0424\u043e\u0442\u043e\u0433\u0440\u0430\u0444\u0438\u044f \u0441\u0434\u0435\u043b\u0430\u043d\u0430 \u0432 \u041d\u044b\u0440\u043e\u0431\u0435, \u041f\u0435\u0440\u043c\u0441\u043a\u043e\u0439 \u043e\u0431\u043b\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0438 \u0432 1957 \u0433\u043e\u0434\u0443. 1 \u043c\u0430\u044f \u0442\u0430\u043c \u0431\u044b\u043b \u043b\u044e\u0431\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044c\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0439 \u043a\u043e\u043d\u0446\u0435\u0440\u0442, \u0438 \u043c\u044b \u0432\u044b\u0441\u0442\u0443\u043f\u0430\u043b\u0438 \u043d\u0430 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